<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
    <channel>
        <title>Iran Outside In</title>
        <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/</link>
        <description>A view of Iran from the outside, looking in. Colored by eighteen years of Iranian in-laws. Expect to find news that you don&apos;t tend to see in the American or Iranian press. Nothing is as simple as it seems, and &quot;black and white&quot; does not exist.</description>
        <language>en</language>
        <copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
        <lastBuildDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:14:38 -0500</lastBuildDate>
        <generator>http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/</generator>
        <docs>http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification</docs>
        
        <item>
            <title>My, what large weather we&apos;re having...</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>As I sit here in Massachusetts it is in the 50's outside (and partly sunny). Yesterday it was 64 and gorgeous. Yet it's the beginning of January.</p>
<p>Today my father-in-law got a call from Iran. Tehran has 2-3 feet of snow. Temperatures have been below freezing for days. The schools have been closed for a week. The gas lines have no pressure because of the unexpected demand for heating*. The orange groves in the north have been demolished, the trees broken by heavy wet snow.</p>
<p>Welcome to our new planet.</p>
<p>* For those who wonder why Iran would be short on gas, the answer is simple. Lack of refineries. When the middle east was under western colonization, it made more sense to ship crude to Europe and America, where it would then be processed. Processing requires a substantial technological infrastructure. The middle east has that infrastructure now, and refineries are being built, but most of the technology comes from the west, and from American companies in particular. And of course the U.S. won't allow it to be exported to Iran. So Iran sits on huge deposits of oil, but can't actually <span style="font-style: italic;">use</span> that oil themselves.</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2008/01/my-what-large-weather-were-hav.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2008/01/my-what-large-weather-were-hav.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">foreign policy</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">gas</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">oil</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">weather</category>
            
            <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:14:38 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Experience vs. Identity in Foreign Policy</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of Fareed Zakaria. He is one of the few columnists out there who not only recognizes America's responsibility to appear moral to the world (and I mean that as an <span style="font-style: italic;">addition</span> to "being" moral, not as an <span style="font-style: italic;">alternative</span>), but also has the ability to understand and articulate how others view us, regardless of whether those people are friends or foes.</p>
<p>In this particular column, Fareed uncomfortably recognizes that the reason he prefers Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton on foreign policy is precisely because he believes Barack has a better "feel" for how non-Americans perceive our country. In other words, it's not about foreign policy "experience", it's about being able to empathize (in the sense of "deep understanding").</p>
<fieldset class="quotation">
  <legend><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/78157" class="attribution" rel="permalink">Zakaria: The Power of Personality</a> <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/" class="source">Newsweek.com</a></legend>

  <p><span style="color: #363636; font-family: Georgia; line-height: 19px;">I never thought I'd be in this position. There's a debate taking place about what matters most when making judgments about foreign policy&#8212;experience and expertise on the one hand, or personal identity on the other. And I find myself coming down on the side of identity.</span><br /></p>

  <p><span style="color: #363636; font-family: Georgia; line-height: 19px;">&#8230;</span></p>

  <p><span style="color: #363636; font-family: Georgia; line-height: 19px;">But when I think about what is truly distinctive about the way I look at the world, about the advantage that I may have over others in understanding foreign affairs, it is that <em>I know what it means</em> <em>not to be an American</em>. I know intimately the attraction, the repulsion, the hopes, the disappointments that the other 95 percent of humanity feels when thinking about this country. I know it because for a good part of my life, I wasn't an American. I was the outsider, growing up 8,000 miles away from the centers of power, being shaped by forces over which my country had no control.</span><br /></p>
</fieldset>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Arial">I call the recognition "uncomfortable" because of course, Fareed has made a career out of foreign policy (degrees, books, experience&#8230;). Yet, here he has to admit that while those gave him the necessary tools, what makes him really good as an advisor to America is his non-American upbringing.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Arial">Which leads me to something that always seems to be forgotten when we get around to picking our leaders. In the end, the true strength of a leader is not what they know, but how well they choose their advisors. It's a rare person who has the courage to surround themselves with people who are smarter than they are, and an even rarer one who can do so without being manipulated. Where would Kennedy have been without his brother as Attorney General? And since then, only Carter and (perhaps) George Bush Sr. have had those skills.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Arial">A leader may provide the ideology, but the advisors provide the tools and information. A smart leader knows that, and isn't afraid to pick advisors who differ in ideology but have greater skills.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Arial">But whomever becomes President next year, they could do far worse than choosing Fareed Zakaria as an advisor.</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/experience-vs-identity-in-fore.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/experience-vs-identity-in-fore.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Americans</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Barack Obama</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Bobby Kennedy</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">elections</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Fareed Zakaria</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">George Bush Sr.</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Hillary Clinton</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Jimmy Carter</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">John Kennedy</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Newsweek</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:15:54 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Iran shuts down 24 cafes in Net crackdown</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<fieldset class="quotation">
  <legend><a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6223069.html?tag=nl.e550" class="attribution" rel="permalink">Iran shuts down 24 cafes in Net crackdown</a> <a href="http://news.zdnet.com/" class="source">Tech News on ZDNet</a></legend>

  <p class="tags" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; font-size: 0.85em;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px;"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal;">Iranian police have closed down 24 Internet cafes and other coffee shops in as many hours, as part of a broad crackdown on "immoral" behavior in the Islamic state, official media said Sunday.</span><br /></span></p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">The action in Tehran province was the latest move in a <a href="http://www.news.com/Dictatorships-catching-up-with-Web-2.0/2010-1028_3-6155582.html" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; color: #003399; text-decoration: underline;">campaign against practices deemed incompatible with Islamic values</a>, including women not adhering to strict dress codes and barber shops offering men Western hair styles.</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">"Using immoral computer games, storing obscene photos...and the presence of women wearing improper hijab were among the reasons why they have been closed down," said Nader Sarkari, a provincial police commander.</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">…</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">Sarkari told the official IRNA news agency that police had inspected 435 coffee shops in the past 24 hours and that 170 had been warned.<br /></p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">The report did not make clear whether they were all Internet cafes, which have mushroomed in Iran over the past few years and are popular especially among young people. Police were not immediately available for comment.</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">"Twenty-three people were detained," Sarkari said, adding that 11 of them were women.</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">Many young Iranians are avid users of the Internet, some using chat rooms to socialize with the opposite sex. Mingling between sexes outside marriage is banned, and <a href="http://www.news.com/The-free-speech-fundamentals-of-Freewebs/2100-1030_3-6179465.html" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; color: #003399; text-decoration: underline;">many Web sites considered unIslamic are blocked by the authorities</a>.</p>

  <p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; margin-top: 1.2em; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.4em;">The cafe crackdown coincides with a winter campaign against women wearing trousers tucked into long boots and other "improper dress" such as short overcoats and hats instead of scarves.</p>
</fieldset>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/iran-shuts-down-24-cafes-in-ne.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/iran-shuts-down-24-cafes-in-ne.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Censorship</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">cafe</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">internet</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Reuters</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">women</category>
            
            <pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:21:34 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>The New York Times&apos; 53 Places to Go in 2008 - #18 Iran</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<fieldset class="quotation">
  <legend><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/travel/09where.html?em&amp;ex=1197694800&amp;en=7e247eb246f4f30a&amp;ei=5087%0A" class="attribution" rel="permalink">The 53 Places to Go in 2008</a> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/" class="source" title="New York Times">New York Times</a></legend>

  <p><span style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold; line-height: 19px;"><span class="bold" style="font-weight: bold;">18. IRAN</span></span></p>

  <p>What Axis of Evil? Upscale tour operators are tiptoeing into Iran next year, offering trips that explore the ancient country's Persian treasures and olive-green desert plains. Next spring, the luxury cruise liner Silversea will make stops in the Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas on its <a href="http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/middle-east/united-arab-emirates/dubai/overview.html?inline=nyt-geo" title="Go to the Dubai Travel Guide." style="color: #004276; text-decoration: underline;">Dubai</a> to Dubai cruise. And<a href="http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/north-america/united-states/california/overview.html?inline=nyt-geo" title="Go to the California Travel Guide." style="color: #004276; text-decoration: underline;">California</a>-based Distant Horizons (<a href="http://www.distant-horizons.com/" target="_" style="color: #004276; text-decoration: underline;">www.distant-horizons.com</a>) is organizing two 18-day trips that start in Tehran and then weave through the once-forbidden countryside, including stops in Shiraz and Isfahan. Prices start at $5,390 per person.</p>
</fieldset>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/the-new-york-times-53-places-t.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/the-new-york-times-53-places-t.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">tourism</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">vacations</category>
            
            <pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:49:39 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Iran Air</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<style type="text/css">
.flickr-photo { border: solid 2px #000000; }
.flickr-yourcomment { }
.flickr-frame { text-align: left; padding: 3px; }
.flickr-caption { font-size: 0.8em; margin-top: 0px; }
</style>

<div class="flickr-frame">
	<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/arashinla/326908485/" title="photo sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/326908485_75f872a88b.jpg" class="flickr-photo" alt="" /></a>
<br />
	<span class="flickr-caption"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/arashinla/326908485/"></a>, originally uploaded by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/arashinla/">Arash in LA</a>.</span>
</div>
				
<p class="flickr-yourcomment">
	Flickr, as I noted in my previous post, has a number of groups concerning Iran, and the Iran Air Fans group is one.  Since my father-in-law was a Test and Check pilot for Iran Air, as well as Operations Chief, I put a slide show of it up on the TV to surprise him.<br />
<br />
It was more of a surprise than I expected.  One of the pictures is of him!
</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/iran-air.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/iran-air.html</guid>
            
            
            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:29:36 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Bypassing Internet Censorship</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday my daughter Shireen asked me again to help her get around the filters at school. She can get to her email, but she can't get to DeviantArt, where <a href="http://dulceamargo.deviantart.com/">she posts</a> photos and artwork. Nor can she use her IM client, and she'd wanted to ask me a question while she was at school. I pointed her at a web IM client that would probably work, and promised to set up an encrypted proxy server on our web site so she could browse wherever she wanted. I also pointed out that her problem is in miniature the same problem faced by millions of folks in <a href="http://www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/iran/">Iran</a>, <a href="http://www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/china/">China</a> and other <a href="http://opennet.net/">countries that try to restrict the flow of information</a> to and from the internet.</p>
<p>While I can sympathize (in theory) with people who see the internet as a corrupting influence, I do not sympathize with the view of "the State as parent", and furthermore, I believe the correct solution to corrupting influences (whether you are a parent or a country) is education and knowledge—not hiding them under a rock and pretending they don't exist. If your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme">meme</a> can't win the battle of information, then it doesn't deserve to survive. (I suppose it's not terribly surprising that such a darwinist approach to ideas doesn't go over well with theocracies. :-) And of course in the case of Iran and China, two of the biggest censorship offenders (how nice to know that Iran is using <a href="http://www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/iran/#1">American software</a> to do the job), the censorship has far more to do with maintaining power than any particular ideology.</p>
<p>In any case, while looking for something completely different this morning, I came across the following Firefox web browser extension.</p>
<fieldset class="quotation">
  <legend><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4286" class="attribution" rel="permalink">Access Flickr! :: Firefox Add-ons</a></legend>

  <div class="addon-feature-header" style="min-height: 55px;">
    <div class="addon-feature-icon" style="float: left; margin-right: 7px;">
      <span style="color: #3C475B; font-family: verdana; line-height: 18px;"><img src="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/addon_icon/4286" class="addon-icon" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial;" /></span>
    </div>

    <div class="addon-feature-titleby">
      <h2 class="addon-feature-name" style="font-family: arial, verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 150%; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 0px;"><span style="color: #3C475B; font-family: verdana; line-height: 18px;">Access Flickr! <span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 80%;">1.71</span> <span class="addon-feature-homepage" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 80%;"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/42351/" style="color: #F7941D;"><img src="https://addons.mozilla.org/img/developers/homepage_small.png" alt="Homepage" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial;" /></a></span></span></h2><span id="authors" class="addon-feature-developer" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px;">by <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/91220" class="profileLink" style="color: #F7941D;">Hamed Saber</a></span>
    </div>
  </div>

  <div class="addon-feature-tagline" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-style: italic;">
    <p>Bypasses the flickr.com filter in Iran, UAE, Saudi Arabia, China and other banned countries and places...</p>
  </div>

  <div class="addon-feature-text">
    <p>كافيه اين رو نصب كنيد. هيچ تنظيماتي لازم نيست. همه چيز خود به خود انجام مي‌شه. فقط نصبش مي‌كنيد، فايرفاكس رو ريستارت مي‌كنيد و ...<br />
    يوهو!<br />
    فليكر ديگه فيلتر نيست<br />
    <br />
    绕过GFW访问Flickr<br />
    安装此插件并重启浏览器。不必设置，没有菜单、图标……一切都已设置完成！<br />
    重启后，您便可以访问flickr.com，没有任何的限制！<br />
    <br />
    Just install the extension and restart your browser. There is no configuration, no menu, no icon... All needed configurations are done automatically!<br />
    After restarting, you can access flickr.com, without any restriction!<br />
    <br />
    Read more about me on "Ten Percent":<br />
    <a href="http://tenpercent.wordpress.com/2007/03/06/iran-blogapalooza-hamed-sabers-photos/">http://tenpercent.wordpress.com/2007/03/06/iran-blogapalooza-hamed-sabers-photos/</a><br />
    <br />
    And an interview about this extension on "Global Voices":<br />
    <a href="http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/02/14/access-flickr-iran/">http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/02/14/access-flickr-iran/</a><br />
    <br />
    History: In my country (Iran), unfortunately, the flickr.com is banned. I'm a fan of that photo-archive website, so I wrote this extension just to help my dear friends who can not access flickr.com from Iran.<br />
    <br />
    Keywords: Flick, Flicker, Fliker, Flikr, Iran, Iranian, Persia, Persian, Farsi, China, Chinese, Arab, Arabic, UAE, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, ايران, فارسي, فارسی, ایران<br />
    <br />
    Please send your bug reports to this discussion thread:<br />
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/iranian/discuss/72157594467732437/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/iranian/discuss/72157594467732437/</a><br />
    or send me an email to (hsaber [at] gmail [dot] com)</p>
  </div>
</fieldset>
<p>I actually hadn't realized that Iran blocked Flickr, there's an active <a href="http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=iran">Iranian community there</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=iran"><img src="http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/images/IranFlickrGroups.png" width="328" height="502" alt="Flickr Groups about Iran"/></a></p>
<p>I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. But it's a pity, Flickr's a great way to see what Iran really looks like right now.</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/bypassing-internet-censorship.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/12/bypassing-internet-censorship.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Censorship</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Firefox</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Flickr</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">memes</category>
            
            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:39:40 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Huckabee at least has some common sense</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't want to get in the habit of posting U.S. election information here, but the areas of religious tolerance and immigration are relevant. So…</p>
<p>From last night's Republican debate (via the <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/29/america/gop.php">International Herald Tribune</a>).</p>
<blockquote>
  <p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;">Romney turned on Huckabee for a proposal he made as governor of Arkansas to give breaks in college tuition to the children of illegal immigrants. "Mike, that's not your money," he said. "That's the taxpayers' money. And the right thing here is to say to people that are here legally as citizens or legal aliens, we're going to help you. But if you're here illegally, you ought to be able to return home or get in line with everybody else, but illegals are not going to get taxpayer-funded breaks that are better than our own citizens." Huckabee responded: "In all due respect, we're a better country than to punish children for what their parents did. We're a better country than that."</span></p>
</blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/huckabee-at-least-has-some-com.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/huckabee-at-least-has-some-com.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">elections</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">foreign policy</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">immigation</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Mike Huckabee</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Mitt Romney</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
            <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:25:40 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Romney uses quotas to disqualify himself from office</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>There's an old joke that's become more popular in recent years. "In America they say anyone can become president. Now I know it's true." With it has come the follow-on. "I used to think it didn't matter who was president, now I know I was wrong." For a long time I've believed that if you have to pick someone (for anything) who's beliefs you don't agree with, at least pick someone smart. With someone smart you can at least hope that when the chips are down and reality is staring them in the face, they'll make a reasonable decision. The senior President Bush was a case in point. I didn't vote for him, I didn't like him, and I didn't like what he did. But he understood reality enough to know he shouldn't invade Iraq.</p>
<blockquote>
  <p>Trying to eliminate Saddam .. would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible ... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq ...there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land." - <span style="font-style: italic;">George Bush, Sr. "A World Transformed"</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>So, of all the Republicans, I thought that Romney, despite massive political flip-flips, was the least dangerous. But then he spouts off with this zinger.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1127/p09s01-coop.html" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">A Muslim belongs in the Cabinet | csmonitor.com</a></h2>LAS VEGAS - Mitt Romney tells good jokes. I had the chance to hear a few of them this month at a political fundraiser in Las Vegas, where the Republican presidential contender gave his audience a few good chuckles before going into his domestic and foreign policy agenda.
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  His platform seemed sound enough analytically – until he demonstrated an aggravating hypocrisy in his reply to my query on one of his key foreign policy positions. It's a stance that should give pause to all Americans who are considering voting for him.
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  I asked Mr. Romney whether he would consider including qualified Americans of the Islamic faith in his cabinet as advisers on national security matters, given his position that "jihadism" is the principal foreign policy threat facing America today. He answered, "…based on the numbers of American Muslims [as a percentage] in our population, I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified. But of course, I would imagine that Muslims could serve at lower levels of my administration."
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  Romney, whose Mormon faith has become the subject of heated debate in Republican caucuses, wants America to be blind to his religious beliefs and judge him on merit instead. Yet he seems to accept excluding Muslims because of their religion, claiming they're too much of a minority for a post in high-level policymaking.
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation" style="text-align: right;">
  -Mansoor Ijaz
</blockquote>
<p>Bizarre. A candidate who thinks he should select his advisors based on a religious quota system?</p>In case anyone cares (and why should they?), Mormon's outnumber Muslims about 2 to 1 in the United States, but relative to the overall population, the difference (.8%) is not terribly significant.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/images/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.png" width="363" height="500" alt="2001 Religious Breakdown in US" /> <a href="http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.pdf/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.pdf">PDF</a> <a href="http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.pdf/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.csv">CSV</a> <a href="http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.pdf/2001%20Religious%20Breakdown%20in%20US.xls">Excel</a>
<blockquote class="quotation"></blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/romney-disqualifies-himself-no.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/romney-disqualifies-himself-no.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">elections</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Mitt Romney</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">religion</category>
            
            <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:26:44 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>(Some) Iraqi refugees begin journey home</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Hundreds out of 1.5 million (in Syria). And it's not clear whether it's a desire to return home, or choosing between a rock and a hard place. It would also be extremely interesting to see whether they are (and can) return to their original homes. I'll cross my fingers, but I'm not hopeful.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7115878.stm" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraqi refugees begin journey home</a></h2>

  <table width="629" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 13px;">
    <tbody>
      <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
        <td colspan="3" style="font-size: 13px;">
          <div class="mxb" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px;">
            <div class="sh" style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: bold; color: #000000;">
              Iraqi refugees begin journey home
            </div>
          </div>
        </td>
      </tr>

      <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
        <td valign="top" width="416" style="font-size: 13px;">
          <table border="0" cellspacing="0" align="right" width="203" cellpadding="0" style="font-size: 13px;">
            <tbody>
              <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
                <td style="font-size: 13px;">
                  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44265000/jpg/_44265525_flag_afp203.jpg" width="203" height="152" alt="An Iraqi refugee holds his national flag before refugees board buses to return to Iraq from Damascus (27/11/2007)" border="0" vspace="0" hspace="0" />

                  <div class="cap" style="font-size: 10px; color: #666666; font-weight: normal;">
                    Syria has had problems coping with 1.5 million refugees from Iraq
                  </div>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table><font size="2"><b style="font-weight: bold;">Hundreds of Iraqi refugees have left temporary shelter in Syria to return to their homes in Iraq.</b></font>

          <p><font size="2">About 800 people are travelling in a convoy of buses provided by the Iraqi government following two months of security improvements in Iraq.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">But there are also reports that life has become increasingly hard for some of the 1.5 million refugees in Syria.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">The Iraqi government hopes that if the convoy is successful, many more people will be encouraged to return to Iraq.</font></p>
        </td>
      </tr>
    </tbody>
  </table>
</blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/some-iraqi-refugees-begin-jour.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/some-iraqi-refugees-begin-jour.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Iraq</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">refugees</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Syria</category>
            
            <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:10:22 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Iranian court reopens Kazemi case</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7115024.stm" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iranian court reopens Kazemi case</a></h2>

  <table width="629" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 13px;">
    <tbody>
      <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
        <td colspan="3" style="font-size: 13px;">
          <div class="mxb" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px;">
            <div class="sh" style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: bold; color: #000000;">
              Iranian court reopens Kazemi case
            </div>
          </div>
        </td>
      </tr>

      <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
        <td valign="top" width="416" style="font-size: 13px;">
          <table border="0" cellspacing="0" align="right" width="203" cellpadding="0" style="font-size: 13px;">
            <tbody>
              <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
                <td style="font-size: 13px;">
                  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39283000/jpg/_39283383_kazemi203body.jpg" width="203" height="152" alt="File photograph of Zahra Kazemi" border="0" vspace="0" hspace="0" />

                  <div class="cap" style="font-size: 10px; color: #666666; font-weight: normal;">
                    Zahra Kazemi died in a hospital in Tehran in July 2003
                  </div>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table><font size="2"><b style="font-weight: bold;">Iran's Supreme Court has ordered a new investigation into the death of the Iranian-Canadian photojournalist, Zahra Kazemi, while in custody in 2003.</b></font>

          <p><font size="2">Judiciary spokesman Ali Reza Jamshidi said the court had objected to the acquittal in 2004 of an intelligence agent accused of beating her to death.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">He said judges had "found some formal flaws" in previous investigations.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">Kazemi, 54, died in Tehran in July 2003 having received head injuries during more than three days of interrogation.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">She was arrested on 23 June 2003 while taking photographs outside Evin prison in the north of the capital, but was never formally charged with any offence.</font></p>

          <p><font size="2">The case severely strained relations between the Canadian and Iranian governments.</font></p>
        </td>
      </tr>
    </tbody>
  </table>
</blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iranian-court-reopens-kazemi-c.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iranian-court-reopens-kazemi-c.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Censorship</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">courts</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">journalism</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">punishment</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">torture</category>
            
            <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:05:05 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Archbishop thrown into row over US Middle East policy</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2217096,00.html" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">Archbishop thrown into row over US Middle East policy | Guardian Unlimited</a></h2>

  <p>Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, found himself plunged into political controversy yesterday after remarks made during the course of a wide-ranging interview for a Muslim magazine were translated into an all-out attack on American policy in the Middle East.</p>

  <p>The archbishop told Emel magazine in what it described as "a series of profound views expressed in serene tranquillity" that the US had lost the moral high ground since the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001, and that Washington's attempts to accumulate influence and control in the region were not working.</p>

  <p>He was quoted as saying: "It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources into administering it and normalising it. Rightly or wrongly, that's what the British empire did - in India, for example. It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put things back together - Iraq, for example."</p>
</blockquote>
<p>"Interpreted as"? I'm not sure I would call it an attack, but "very strong critique" would work. He's right. We lost the moral high ground a long time ago. Ironically, General Petraeus was one of the few on the scene who understood this, but his appointment to handle the Iraq fiasco happened far too late for him to do anything about it.</p>
<blockquote>
  <p><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Petraeus oversaw a program of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_works" title="Public works" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">public works</a> and political reinvigoration in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosul" title="Mosul" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">Mosul</a>,<sup id="_ref-25" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-25" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[27]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-26" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-26" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[28]</a></sup> launching 4,500 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_of_Iraq" title="Reconstruction of Iraq" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">reconstruction projects</a>.<sup id="_ref-27" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-27" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[29]</a></sup> <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">The New York Times</a></i> has stated that "from the first day they arrived in Mosul, Bravo Company and the rest of the 101st Airborne Division were saddled with dozens of other missions, all of them distinctly nonmilitary, and most of them made necessary by the failure of civilian leaders in Washington and Baghdad to prepare for the occupation of Iraq."<sup id="_ref-28" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-28" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[30]</a></sup> Some Iraqis gave Petraeus the nickname '<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David" title="King David" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">King David</a>',<sup id="_ref-29" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-29" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[31]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-30" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-30" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[32]</a></sup> which was later adopted by some of his colleagues.<sup id="_ref-31" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-31" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[33]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-32" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-32" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[34]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-33" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-33" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[35]</a></sup> <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsweek" title="Newsweek" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">Newsweek</a></i> has stated that "It's widely accepted that no force worked harder to win Iraqi hearts and minds than the 101st Air Assault Division led by Petraeus."<sup id="_ref-34" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#_note-34" title="" style="text-decoration: none; color: #002BB8; background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial;">[36]</a></sup></span></p>

  <p style="text-align: right;"><span style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 19px;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus">Wikipedia</a><br /></span></p>
</blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/archbishop-thrown-into-row-ove.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/archbishop-thrown-into-row-ove.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Iraq</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">foreign policy</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Petraeus</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">politics</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">religion</category>
            
            <pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:43:57 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Releasing prisoners to &quot;build confidence&quot;</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>You arrest someone. You charge them with a crime, you put them in jail. Now here's a basic question. Do you believe your justice system is in fact "just"? If so, then clearly you feel that the punishment you have given these people is appropriate for their crimes. The time in jail will either serve as a deterrent (we'll ignore all the studies about how well <span style="font-style: italic;">that</span> works) or rehabilitation.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://voanews.com/english/2007-11-19-voa15.cfm" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">VOA News - Palestinian Prisoner Release Given Green Light</a></h2>Israel's prime minister has received cabinet approval to release 441 Palestinian prisoners ahead of next week's Mideast peace conference in Annapolis, Maryland. Mr. Olmert told his cabinet he plans to remove unauthorized settlements in the West Bank. As VOA's Jim Teeple reports from Jerusalem, Palestinians have criticized the prisoner release as inadequate. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert Momentum is gathering ahead of next week's Mideast peace conference in Annapolis, Maryland. Ehud Olmert says his prisoner release is a key confidence building measure, ahead of the conference.
</blockquote>
<p>All of which is to say that if you can go to your jails, sort through the people there, and come up with 441 of them whom you believe it's suddenly okay to release in order to "build confidence", then it's clear that it isn't the people in jail you are punishing. You're trying to punish the people of Palestine. Because the only way I can interpret that phrase is that it's meant to indicate that "if you play nice with us, we'll let more go, and we won't arrest any new folks". All of which makes a mockery of the justice system.</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/releasing-prisoners-to-build-c.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/releasing-prisoners-to-build-c.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Israel</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Palestine</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">punishment</category>
            
            <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:14:10 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Iraqi fighters &apos;grilled for evidence on Iran&apos;</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Under the best of circumstances this kind of pressure to nail the blame on a particular cause is dangerous. With this administration, it's particularly of concern. In addition, even if the interrogators do their job properly, and the informants don't decide to gain favor by creating evidence, and the administration doesn't cherry-pick–it's clear that by focusing all of this attention on one particular branch of inquiry, other information is going to be missed. You can't gain a true picture of what's going if you're spending all your time trying to prove one single theory.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2208997,00.html" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">Iraqi fighters 'grilled for evidence on Iran' | World | The Observer</a></h2>

  <h1 style="font-family: Arial, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; font-size: x-large; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Geneva;"><span style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10px;">David Smith in Baghdad</span><br /></span></h1><font face="Geneva,Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><b>Sunday November 11, 2007<br />
  <a href="http://www.observer.co.uk/" style="color: #003366;">The Observer</a></b><br /></font><br />

  <div id="GuardianArticleBody">
    US military officials are putting huge pressure on interrogators who question Iraqi insurgents to find incriminating evidence pointing to Iran, it was claimed last night.

    <p>…</p>

    <p>Brose, 30, who extracts information from detainees in Iraq, said: 'They push a lot for us to establish a link with Iran. They have pre-categories for us to go through, and by the sheer volume of categories there's clearly a lot more for Iran than there is for other stuff. Of all the recent requests I've had, I'd say 60 to 70 per cent are about Iran.</p>

    <p>'It feels a lot like, if you get something and Iran's not involved, it's a let down.' He added: 'I've had people say to me, "They're really pushing the Iran thing. It's like, shit, you know." '</p>

    <p>…</p>

    <p>'It now really depends on who gets elected President in the US. If nothing changes in the current course, I'd say military action is inevitable. But we have to hope there will be a change of course.'<br /></p>

    <p>He denied ever being asked to fabricate evidence, adding: 'We're not asked to manufacture information, we're asked to find it. But if a detainee wants to tell me what I want to hear so he can get out of jail... you know what I'm saying.'</p>

    <p>Other military intelligence officials in Iraq refused to comment, but one said: 'The message is, "Got to find a link with Iran, got to find a link with Iran." It's sickening.'</p>
  </div>
</blockquote>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iraqi-fighters-grilled-for-evi.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iraqi-fighters-grilled-for-evi.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Backfire</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Iraq</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">interrogation</category>
            
            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:33:35 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Sunni group attacks al-Qaeda base</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>I know, I say I'm blogging about Iran, and then the next thing I post is about Iraq. But the fact is, the future of Iraq is critical to the future of Iran. That's true from a political standpoint (Iran needs a stable neighbor in Kurdish Iraq if nowhere else) and an economic one. A successful and growing Iraq would be a great trading partner for Iran, which is one of the largest producer of consumer goods in the Middle East. A wealthy middle class in both countries would do a lot for the stability of the region. Nothing limits extremism as much as people who have something to lose. Unfortunately, we've pretty much ensured that <span style="font-style: italic;">that</span> won't happen.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7088013.stm" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">BBC NEWS | Middle East | Sunni group attacks al-Qaeda base</a></h2><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;"><b style="font-weight: bold;">A Sunni faction has killed 18 al-Qaeda militants in an attack on a compound near the Iraqi city of Samarra, police have said.</b></span>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">Another 16 al-Qaeda members were said to have been captured in the attack.</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">…</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">The faction is one of several Sunni former insurgent groups that have now turned against al-Qaeda.</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">On Friday, five Sunni Arab tribal leaders had been killed in a suicide attack in Diyala province, north-east of Baghdad.</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;"><b style="font-weight: bold;">Safe havens</b></span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says the Islamic Army of Iraq is apparently planning to use those captured in an exchange of prisoners.</span></p>

  <table border="0" cellspacing="0" align="right" width="203" cellpadding="0" style="font-size: 13px;">
    <tbody>
      <tr style="font-size: 13px;">
        <td style="font-size: 13px;">
          <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44231000/jpg/_44231377_samarra_bbc_203.jpg" width="203" height="152" alt="View of Samarra (1996)" border="0" vspace="0" hspace="0" />

          <div class="cap" style="font-size: 10px; color: #666666; font-weight: normal;">
            Samarra has been the scene of factional violence
          </div>
        </td>
      </tr>
    </tbody>
  </table>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">…</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">Analysts say that while the Islamic Army shares with the US military a common enemy in al-Qaeda, it does not support the coalition forces or their continued presence in Iraq.</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">No US or Iraqi security forces are thought to have been involved in the fighting.</span></p>

  <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;">Our correspondent says many of the Sunni tribes that used to provide safe havens for the militants are actively combating al-Qaeda.</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>The enemy of our enemy is not necessarily our friend. That's true of the Iraqi Sunni's and al-Qaeda, but also of course of the Iraqi Sunni's and ourselves. Now if we could just wrap our head around that concept in a more global context.</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/sunni-group-attacks-alqaeda-ba.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/sunni-group-attacks-alqaeda-ba.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Iraq</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">News</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">al-qaeda</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">sunni</category>
            
            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:31:06 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
        <item>
            <title>Iran booted from Yahoo!, Microsoft lists - UPI.com</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Google, at least, for arguing that allowing Iranians to use GMail doesn't constitute "doing business with Iran". But shame on Microsoft and Yahoo! for not having the guts to wait until the government complains.</p>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  <h2><a class="attribution" href="http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/2007/11/08/iran_booted_from_yahoo_microsoft_lists/1886/" rel="bookmark" title="Permalink">Iran booted from Yahoo!, Microsoft lists - UPI.com</a></h2>SEATTLE, Nov. 8 (UPI) -- Two U.S.-based e-mail services, Microsoft and Yahoo!, have taken Iran off their country lists. Yahoo! issued a statement saying it continually reviews its business operations to comply with U.S. restrictions on "conducting business in specified countries, such as Iran." "
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  …
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="quotation">
  Iran remains an option for Google G-mail users. The company said it did not believe that keeping Iran on its country list violates the sanctions.
</blockquote>
<p>Sanctions in general are a mistake–they hurt the people who you most want on your side. But in all battles, information is a weapon, and in the modern age, the access to the internet is a critical component of that. Iran, China and other governments know that very well, and do their best to limit their people's access to information. When we impose sanctions that <span style="font-style: italic;">help</span> them, we are playing right into their hands.</p>
<p>Farsi is currently one of the <a href="http://www.knowledgesearch.org/census/lang.html">top-ten blogging languages</a>. Until <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut#State_Censorship">Iran blocked access</a>, Iranians were the third largest group of users (after Brazil and the U.S.) of Google's Orkut social networking service. Somehow I don't think the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Revolutionary_Guards_Corps">Sepah-e Pasdaran-e Enghelab-e Islami</a> (<span style="font-size: 13px; font-style: italic; line-height: 19px;">سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی<span style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; line-height: normal;">) is doing a lot of blogging.</span></span></p>
<p>P.S. That last piece of Farsi was a test case. Someone who can actually read it, please let me know if it displayed correctly. I'm also interested as to whether Farsi displays correctly when entered in the comment forms (not that I'll be able to read any comments you leave in Farsi, but I can get them translated, so feel free.)</p>
]]></description>
            <link>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iran-booted-from-yahoo-microso.html</link>
            <guid>http://www.marrowbones.com/commons/iranoutsidein/2007/11/iran-booted-from-yahoo-microso.html</guid>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Backfire</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category">Censorship</category>
            
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">blogging</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">email</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Google</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Microsoft</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Orkut</category>
            
                <category domain="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag">Yahoo!</category>
            
            <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:32:58 -0500</pubDate>
        </item>
        
    </channel>
</rss>
